# Blank Manager with undefined message and unfunctional navigation **URL:** \ **Category:** Extras\ **Tags:** manager\ **Created:** [March 25, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://community.modx.com/t/blank-manager-with-undefined-message-and-unfunctional-navigation/3860 "2021-03-25T21:38:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 5
**Author:** ![bruno17](https://community.modx.com/user_avatar/community.modx.com/bruno17/32/71_2.png) [@bruno17](https://community.modx.com/u/bruno17)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 12:44pm UTC](https://community.modx.com/t/blank-manager-with-undefined-message-and-unfunctional-navigation/3860/5 "2021-03-26T12:44:36Z")
not sure, if this is related > [@Blank manager with undefined message](https://community.modx.com/t/blank-manager-with-undefined-message/3799): > > Several of my customers keep complaining they get random blank managers and the ‘undefined’ message. We cannot work out why this happens. A call from my customers ends up in endless testing of browsers, caches, other PC’s/laptops, other logins, etc. It’s becoming quite annoying since this has been there for years now. It’s affecting the service level and relationship to my customers. Does anyone have a clue or solution? he was also talking about an ‘undefined’ message --- _[View the full topic](https://community.modx.com/t/blank-manager-with-undefined-message-and-unfunctional-navigation/3860)._